Peugeot, and French cars in general, has been synonymous with elegant design. It is also fair to say that either of the two major French brands has also gone through more complicated periods in terms of design. From a lifetime perspective, both brands have forged automotive gold in their rear catalogues.
Today we celebrate two things. The first is the rare design piece that is the Peugeot 504 Cabriolet via Anton. The moment is the popularity of the revival of the Peugeot product with the 508 Fastback.
The pairing of those two cars is quite significant.
Gilles Vidal, the recently resigned director of Peugeot’s design studio, was in charge of the 508 commission. Prior to his march, Vidal had spent his entire career in the PSA Group, joining the logo in the mid-1990s. met Jean-Pierre Ploué.
Ploué is a legend in the corridors of the PSA Group, having been guilty of the suitability of the Brother Citroen logo. Think of C5, C6, and DS3, for calling some. As the group’s design director, Ploué a little guilty 508, in addition to being influential to Vidal himself.
However, it was Vidal who enjoyed 504 the most; in fact, if the studio, led by Vidal, began writing its concepts and long-term design philosophy, it resorted to this style to motivate what was to come. it is the popular edition of the Peugeot 508 that we see today, as well as the concept vehicle ”e-Legend”.
Thus, a 508 meets a 504 is a genuine case of assembly of descendants of an ancestor. The design of the 508 is more than a case of borrowing one or two elements. Its external design is decent to reinvent a 504 for today.
Before we separate this cute pair, let’s take a look at Anton’s 504 Cabriolet.
Dressed in his original metallic painting, his 504 began life in New Caledonia, a wealthy individual commissioned 3 of the new things and sent them to the French-ruled country, and ended up going to Australia, where Anton enters the scene.
It took exactly 11 years to get the car to the criteria you see here. The car did not get tired at all, but as is the case with all older cars, it ended up falling victim to the “snowball effect”.
“The conversion of the steering wheel to the right was not perfect, the board off-center,” Adds Anton. “Once I ripped the board to solve this problem, I discovered other things. Then some other things, and here we are 11 years later. “
It’s hard to convey the quality of a recovery through photos, but let me tell you a few things to advise you: the frame is more expensive than a high-end sedán, every nut, bolt and similar piece of steel has been stripped, zinged and repositioned in place, and even the original factory-made paint marks have been reproduced thoroughly using templates , water and hand-painting.
It is a true work of love, effort and effort that has had the invaluable merit of being supervised by Anton’s incredibly insightful eye.
However, as a car, the effort that has been invested in it is valued. The 504 Cabriolet is not just a spectator. It was introduced in 1969 with a “Kugelfischer” fuel injection, four-wheel disc brakes and a completely independent suspension.
It is surprising to make this point and then recognize that other brands, with their road cars, were still beam axles, drum brakes and unso cooked carburetors until the 1980s. The 504 was ahead of time. It also advanced miles in terms of cost. When they were new, they sold more than an equivalent Jaguar E-Type.
The 504 Cabriolet, however, was partially the victim of the customer’s badge on the front. Many remained undyed and fell into a state of decline, while potential homeowners at the time and third-party creditors gravitated toward other metals of the time, seeing nothing foolishly in this beloved Frenchman at the time, it was too late for many to locate the loving hands of someone like Anton.
So this makes it a rare car in the world. According to howmanyleft. co. uk, five were registered in the first quarter of 2020 and 11 were registered as their own and in stock. In Australia, Anton thinks there are two or three more hidden, three or four.
Parking next to a 508 brings a lot of clarity to the design of the fashionable car. The old 504 is the missing component of the Peugeot Rosetta Stone, which, when put together, allows to perceive and perceive its design and heritage in which it follows.
The first non-unusual detail you see is the wide grille adorned with a giant lion in the center. Once you’re done, more complex familiarities begin to emerge.
The headlights of any of the cars have a square shaped double beam arrangement that is too much to be a coincidence. Like the taillights, for that matter, they have the same trend of “lion claw” with 3 strokes.
Zoom back, the point that surprised me a little is how Peugeot controlled to finish the new 508 with such a low roof line. It’s incredibly modern compared to top fashion cars, not to mention new sedans.
It is not much higher than the sunroof of the 1960s, which is a vital feat to achieve with a popular road car, and Peugeot was able to achieve this by using frameless door windows, which were incorporated with the sole aim of knocking down. the roof through a few centimeters. The hood line also recalls the past, with a pair of undeniable wide folds dividing the vast horizontal plane.
As a definitive signature, the 508 carries its style call on the front of the car, simply proud of the lion’s insignia. This is the first Peugeot in 25 years to resurrect this trait of ancient design. The latest Peugeot with a “5” in its Style Call to provide this key in fact the 504. If anything means what generated this car, it’s that little touch right there.
In fact, we would have seen more design touches if we had a 504 coupe, such as a shared roof line and back hips in general. But, to be honest, I don’t use a car if it’s not a coupe. It’s a thrill to see a 504 Cabriolet in the wild, all over the world for that matter. It also has enough with the new car to show the common points despite the lack of roof.
So I got nervous when Anton gave me the keys for a quick trip.
To provide a frame of reference, he had driven much of a 508 in a past life. I know how I feel and how I feel. One thing you realize with the 508 is how incredibly smooth it is. People claim that the little guide The Wheel and the speed of the opening of the house are important points that explain why it feels like this, which I can match.
However, I think most of its feeling comes from the fact that it is a soft car for the category, it has an empty mass of only 1385 kg. A VW Passat reaches 1511 kg to supply the context.
The dough turns out to be anything that can’t be undone. It can be designed around it, without a doubt. Projection power, magical absorbents of surprises and other fodder paint well to mitigate the side effects of weight. These technologies can lead a heavy car to do glorious things, such as going fast in corners, etc. , but none can effectively mimic the true feeling of lightness.
The 504 incredibly light. Due to its lack of mass, its suspension does not have to do much work, does not support chassis and chassis sections large and heavy and, as a result, can take stretches of shitty road calmly.
If you’ve ever been to France, you’ll know that cobblestone roads are horrible. While Citroen decided to invent hydropneumatic suspension to attack driving quality, Peugeot took the classic path of keeping things soft and making engineering efforts for such a gospel.
It is unexpected that Peugeot still insists on this point, when you drive one of its old models one after the other with the newest and largest, you can see how this ideology still sounds true and how it has deteriorated over time. Soft cars still have their position in our time.
Although not the same, you get the same feeling of lightness behind the wheel of either car, it is an exclusive delight that allows both cars to feel fast and effortless.
With the 504, everything internal had a fairly sensitive action according to its driving on the road. The manual shifting stroke was long, but accurate and easy to use. You don’t want to force it to start with a slow anxiety, as it glides smoothly between reports faster than I imagined for the first time that its old timing generation could handle.
The guide is excellent, it feels quite soft and easy to know. “Friendly” is a smart way to put it. Another point is that you’re sitting high enough in a 504 Convertible. Combine this with a low door line, and what you get is nothing less than the Mecca of convertible cars.
Personally, I love convertibles, and now I’ve driven some, but it’s definitely maximum in a new opening league. When from left to right, and even behind, the increased point of view means that your vision is absolutely clear, which results in the feeling that you are sitting on something, not something.
A joy in open corruption.
This contrasts with the 508, where you sit low, curled up in its belly, with the upper lines of the doors and a top center console that hides you from the outside. While the 504 was scarce, even superbly minimal with its interior design, the 508 is naturally Anything different There are some smart internal capacitive touch buttons that make their component to reduce clutter, but that’s it.
Regardless of this weak attempt at drawing the longer arches, you just can’t compare the two, because the new car is a festival of its own generation. Two giant virtual screens dominate the dash, their seats massage you, and there are all sorts of others. advances that come with age.
Inside, they are very different in terms of execution, I agree with that, because I don’t think many of us need to revel in everything in the afterlife all the time, such as air-conditioned temperature systems and the general lack of infotainment.
In saying that, 508 is a fair reconstruction of the afterlife, it’s not retro. That’s a bad word. Take the smart parts of the afterlife and take them well into the 21st century so we can get them all back.
When I talk about smart parts, I mean that it offers a renewed vision of the light car and portrays a high-end design in a valid way and faithful to its past.
Let’s hope the new Peugeot 208 follows the creed.
In fact, only one of them is charming in an enduring way, while the other can be a Kia 2016 model.
This 504 is just gorgeous! I’ve enjoyed the Peugeot and I can’t understand why Australians don’t buy them anymore. They have such a wonderful story here and offer much more than anything else in their value range, they just want to be marketed in a wonderful way.
The 508 front and side, pictured, looks terribly like a 2013 Honda Accord. The C-mount is more remote for a 4-door coupe look and the back is different.
But I like the Lexus 2005-2011 GS300 by the 4-door coupe view at the top.
Remarks: – It’s a fact that the 508 was going to be physically larger than the 504, however, I’m surprised at how few there are, I think the 508 would eclipse 504. It looks a little dark on the back the 508 for the bubs I think my choice would be the wagon, which can also be a little more airy at the back; I think I’m pretty willing to a 508 car like the next car, when that would possibly be . . . Despite how agile this charming 504 is, I think I still prefer the rigid ceiling version. Is there anyone with a front hood?
I had a 604 after my 504. Surprisingly, the 508 is longer and wider than the 604 too, but much lower, as expected.
Yes, that’s how global automotive has evolved, it rarely is. Another example is that I had a Mazda 929 V6 and that the newer Mazda 6 is a bigger car. But like I said, the difference between this 504 and the 508. Honestly, it’s not as much as I thought, it’s still obvious.
Pd. In fact, I liked 604.
I’d normally go in front of them for a head-on crash check and see what happens, but those two are too much for that.
I used to have a 1979 504 diesel used as a taxi in Sydney in the ’80s. I did 550,000 km and it broke down with a small thing, it took 300,000 km to use the clutch. What a car!
The 504 was a strong car, even with stainless metal bumpers. Unfortunately, later, the Pugs got lost.
I love the 508, especially the wagon, in my opinion, they look desirable in a way that some German brands no longer do.
The color of this 504
Dude, 508 is such a strange thing for me. The design is almost perfect. Like, the goal is clear, the lines are beautiful, but the proportions are just as staggered. Maybe that’s the position, I don’t know. Place it on prettier wheels with a minor delay and then we’ll communicate Array. .
Ah, what do I think, they already have! I can’t wait to see this on the road: https: //www. caradvice. com. a . . .
This 504, wow!
Mike about the ambitious comment! But I think I know what you mean. Is it that the most sensitive line of the liftback back door window starts its 25mm descent too soon?The car corrects it, a little outstanding in front?These are the things that make it a 9-1/2 out of 10 design for me.
Of the giant Peugeot sedán of my life, only the 505 had the best proportions, but it looked like a Curtain.
Too much. What is a crooked noseless mannequin?
Wagon corrects everything, man 🙂
The amazing 508 PES!
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This 504 convertible is an absolute gem. Incredibly well restored, the new 508 is also an eye-catcher and the interior is exquisite, especially for the price. It is much more expensive than it is.
The 504 is one of my favorite Peugeots and I had some. A vintage design that still turns my head when I see one. I just took the step in a new 508GT car and 6 weeks later, I still notice the nuances of the design. . It’s nice. Justin is fully aware of the weight. Lightweight, agile and almost sensitive to point and direct. It’s great to see Peugeot back in shape.
Congratulations Nelson, the car is my selection of any of the bodies. What color did you choose?
White pearl. My favorite is the Blue Sulawesa . . . The previous car was a Citroen C5 that I enjoyed and had a hard time quitting. The 508 is impressive and as complicated as I usually am, I can’t complain.
I’d like one. But the urine engine shuts me down.
It’s a smart engine. The Peugeot are very well designed, my 308 has the engine 1. 6 (110kw) and because the car is so light, it is wonderful to drive it very hard. The 508 is a little larger but the engine also has more power. . I would love one, but the price is a bit expensive, I can’t wait to have one used in a few years.
1. 6 looks like 0 on paper but the power to weight ratio is correct, remember even the wagon is weighted from a smaller hot hatch so 165kw / 300Nm is enough for me and the Aisin 8sp box is excellent. just turn off other people because the stereotypical engine of this car elegance is a 2-liter turbo, however, we are talking about Peugeot here and the stereotype is not your bag (Array thankfully).
I would be satisfied with the purchase if I had 2l diesel
This 504 is amazing!
I grew up with a lot of Peugeot in PNG. The normal French shipment used to download 404, 504 and 204 new before heading to New Caledonia. 504 was the best thing for PNG’s shitty roads. I saw a 504 cut off at the pier heading to New Caledonia. Remember a neighbor’s 204 convertible with a strange fan strap that was circling in a corner in the engine compartment because it was too tight.
I Googled it, it’s weird! You have a brilliant memory.
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I think the neighbor’s 204 convertible was amazing, especially in PNG!Our 504 was durable and long lasting well, but as a child, it wasn’t as elegant as the cabrio.
I take a look at your eBook on how to run on Peugeot Justin. In the meantime, that’ll be enough.
Some stories in the old locker.
The 508 looks smart, but the 504 Cabrios and Coupes are masterpieces, never made in HDR and I wondered if new ones would have been sold here if they had been RHD.
The new 508 is an authentic wonder, incredibly sublime and sublime.
Yesterday I saw a 508 pass, the first time I saw one in person. A really good vehicle.
I just flipped through the photos. God, I love those cars, there is a visual delicacy and lightness in the 504 that cannot be reproduced in the fashion era, since the pillars will have to be of a safe thickness, the airbags will have to be incorporated throughout the curtain. etc.
This is one of Pininfarina’s most productive works, as is the sedán and cart!I enjoyed the sedon’s most sublime formwork, such as the front fender and headlights. He combined those elements with arrogant awkwardness in other spaces to climb up to “not entirely beautiful,” as one Australian publisher pointed out.
Like Gérard Depardieu, those things made them French.
I’m looking for a 508 to be next. I had, and I liked it, a 504 and I need a 508. It makes sense a few more miles of my golf on the low kilometer, and I’ll make the trip.
To my delight, I discovered another very clever tribute to 504 in the new car. Seen from some angles, the closed lines on the surface of the 508 “chest” reflect the 504 sedán’s quick start design. sure that someone has ever talked about it, or even if it has been deliberate.
Hey, you know what a very limited edition 508 would be?A blank one with bluish green velvet coating directly from the e-Legend. It is a combination of old Peugeot colors and ornaments that appeared in the 504.
Good place. There are so many similarities between the two cars.